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Single Axis Rotary Positioning

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Trickydickydido

Industrial
Oct 2, 2005
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Hi,

I would appreciate your feedback / comments on which way you would approach the design task for this simple application, which is fairly cost critical.

The requirements are generally as follows.....

A rotary axis is required to rotate and position a part for plasma spraying (the spraying is accomplished by a robot)

The parts are cylindrically symetrical (if there is such a phrase!) such that there is no weight that could be trying to offset the axis, and there are no other external forces being applied to that axis. So holding whilst in position requires little torque.

Max rotary axis speed = 200 RPM (perhaps via gearbox?)
Motor rating Approx 0.5Kw (Max)

The axis control needs to have a very simple interface with an existing controller (a robot), the existing controller will signal via a digital (on/off) signal to start rotating the axis to it's first position.

Then, after the existing controller (robot) has done the first part of it's spray job it will signal to rotate to the second position,
and so on... perhaps 4 or 5 steps max.

The customer is asking that only ONE output from the existing controller is used to step through the positions.

(1st pulse = move to first pos, 2nd pulse = move to 2nd pos etc)

The new axis control will need to signal back to the robot (via one digital on/off signal) that it has done it's step.

This is quite 'loose' synchronisation, but this is what they are asking for (it's not 'high volume' production, engineers run the kit)

EG:
1st on/off pulse from robot controller = start... go to position 1
Echo back 'DONE' from positioner when axis move to position is complete.
2nd on/off pulse = continue to position 2
Echo back 'DONE' when move is complete.
3rd on/off pulse = continue to position 3
Echo back 'DONE' when move is complete.
etc.

A seperate input to the axis controller from the robot can be used to END the program and return the axis to it's datum or zero position.

The ability to store up to 5 programs each with a max of 5 steps.
(each prog may have more or less steps, different positions etc.)
(one of the programs will be a continuous rotation program until the 2nd step pulse is received or END input is received)

The above control I/face example is not 'set in stone' so alternative signalling/interfacing is possible.

Also the ability to ensure the axis is only allowed to travel in one direction (parameter?) This is because of mechanical issues (chain drive, has slack idling tensioner side of chain! Although this mechanical constraint may be resolved) (Part of the mechanics for this axis exists, but no drive)

The customer will need edit access for adding or modifying the very simple programs / steps / positions.

Can you suggest something that will achieve this at reasonable cost.

NOTE: the accuracy required is quite low! (+-/ a couple degs)
The positioning job is for presenting faces of product (or round bar) to a robotic spray arm, it is not for machining purposes.

I am more familier with the likes of Fanuc 0_C and Siemens Sys 8/810/840 etc but feel this is a costly overkill! Althoug the Siem 802s is tempting (stepper) but still fairly expensive for the application in mind?

Your Comments appreciated..........

Rich.
 
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Your question is hard to answer as there are many ways to skin this cat, each of which has issues. The issues are what a full understanding of the process can make or break for any particular scheme.

What first comes to mind is to just get a smart relay like:
They're surprisingly powerful and flexible for the money,(or lack thereof). Pick what brand you like all the PLC makers have the same device with there own flavor of SW and a label.

You could use a pot or an encoder for position.

You could also use a geardrive motor with a built in potentiometer for angle feedback.

Instead of a smart relay you could use a Basic Stamp or something similar if you want to get 'closer' to the wet work.

Keith Cress
Flamin Systems, Inc.-
 
Thanks Itsmoked...

I'll have a look at those links in the morning.

Rich
 
Agree with 'smoked.

You do not even need a feedback. There are small actuators that move a rather precise piece of way per second. Used for dampers and such in HVAC. Use one of those and the timer available in the smart relay. Total HW cost will not be more than 300 - 400 USD and accuracy will be in the degrees region.

Gunnar Englund
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