tr4driver
Civil/Environmental
- Oct 24, 2006
- 8
I have a couple of questions regarding this. I understand that as a PE, I may only seal and sign documents that have been prepared under my direct supervision. Here are a couple of scenarios that I have questions about:
1. A local community requires an engineers stamp and signature on final plats for subdivision projects. The typical Engineer's Certification required on the plat states that the improvements (street, drainage, water & sewer, etc.) have been designed in accordance with the city's requirements. I have no problem with the certification; however, it makes me a little nervous to sign a plat that was actually prepared by a surveyor (and sealed by him as well), and not by me. My involvement in the plat process would typically be somewhat limited. Should I refuse to seal these plats? Or is the act of sealing them simply sealing the certification?
2. An out of state company has contacted me and requested a proposal to provide an SWPPP for a project. The city where this project is located requires this SWPPP be sealed by an engineer. I routinely prepare SWPPPs and always seal and sign them; however, I am not sure that our state department of environmental quality actually requires that the plans be prepared by an engineer, and I suspect that this company routinely develops and submits plans without an engineer's seal for other areas of the state (where the city does not specifically require any kind of local permitting for grading or erosion control). I further suspect that this company may have already prepared an SWPPP and will provide that to me and ask me to seal and sign it.
The state provides a step-by-step questionnaire that is used to go through the process of preparing the SWPPP, and it's really not rocket science. I'm happy to provide the SWPPP, and I obviously won't just stamp their document; however, how much of their initial data (maps, surveys, reports, etc.) can I actually use and still be considered in responsible charge of the project? I routinely rely on other professionals for data (surveys, geotechnical investigations, etc.) and never think twice about it.
What if I review their plan and go through the state's checklist/guide and discover that I come up with the same results? Is there ever an instance where an engineer can seal a document based on review of that document if this is clearly disclosed?
Thanks!
1. A local community requires an engineers stamp and signature on final plats for subdivision projects. The typical Engineer's Certification required on the plat states that the improvements (street, drainage, water & sewer, etc.) have been designed in accordance with the city's requirements. I have no problem with the certification; however, it makes me a little nervous to sign a plat that was actually prepared by a surveyor (and sealed by him as well), and not by me. My involvement in the plat process would typically be somewhat limited. Should I refuse to seal these plats? Or is the act of sealing them simply sealing the certification?
2. An out of state company has contacted me and requested a proposal to provide an SWPPP for a project. The city where this project is located requires this SWPPP be sealed by an engineer. I routinely prepare SWPPPs and always seal and sign them; however, I am not sure that our state department of environmental quality actually requires that the plans be prepared by an engineer, and I suspect that this company routinely develops and submits plans without an engineer's seal for other areas of the state (where the city does not specifically require any kind of local permitting for grading or erosion control). I further suspect that this company may have already prepared an SWPPP and will provide that to me and ask me to seal and sign it.
The state provides a step-by-step questionnaire that is used to go through the process of preparing the SWPPP, and it's really not rocket science. I'm happy to provide the SWPPP, and I obviously won't just stamp their document; however, how much of their initial data (maps, surveys, reports, etc.) can I actually use and still be considered in responsible charge of the project? I routinely rely on other professionals for data (surveys, geotechnical investigations, etc.) and never think twice about it.
What if I review their plan and go through the state's checklist/guide and discover that I come up with the same results? Is there ever an instance where an engineer can seal a document based on review of that document if this is clearly disclosed?
Thanks!