Illinois Licensing

[epitome1170]

I am currently a licensed PE and SE, however, I am wanting to be licensed in Illinois as well. Does anyone know the limitations in Illinois between being a PE and SE (i.e. do I need to be both or can I just be a SE)?

 

[MiketheEngineer]

Check with their board for the latest updates....

You can get their web address at NCEES.org

 

[epitome1170]

I have downloaded all of their documents, but (as you probably know) it is very extensive, which is why I was hoping someone knew off the top of their head.

 

[neffers]

I am also licensed as a PE and SE, but only as an SE in Illinois.

Neffers

 

[dcStrucEng]

I'm in the process of getting my SE in Illinois. It's a bit of a process, with or without an NCEES record. Try this website,

http://www.idfpr.com/dpr/WHO/se.asp.

You can just be an SE, without a PE. But you also need to register your company through the IL Secretary of State if you actually want to do business there. Like I said, kind of a process. Check out that website and you could also try calling. I did and the person that answered was very helpful.

 

[MiketheEngineer]

As I understand it - an SE is required for anything "structural" and I do mean ANYTHING - even down to analyzing a 2' long 2x4??

PEs can do just about anything else within their areas of experience or expertise.

IL has probably the toughest rules on this. BTW - architects can do just about anything!! Who has the better lobby??

 

[epitome1170]

I would argue against you on the better lobby, Mike.

I would say that the Illinois SEA has a better lobby than the architects because they have made it so restrictive to be able to practice structural engineering in Illinois. They are trying to keep all of the engineering "in house" (to engineers already practicing in Illinois.

 

[MiketheEngineer]

1170 -

You may have a point!! But I still don't understand the architect thing??

 

[aaron611]

I have been a licensed SE in Illinois for about 6 years and what Mike is saying is that even though Civil PE's are not allowed to analyze so much as a 2x4 in Illinois, architects are allowed to do all sorts of structural engineering that they deem "incidental" to their work.

It's ridiculous, but that is how I understand it.

 

[Qshake]

I agree with Miketheengineer on the architects. Without providing carte blanche for the architects I don't believe Illinois would have an SE law right now. it's a sad day when architects can do just about anything, including practicing SE work. When I went though the process I was absolutely astonished at what I read about architects/SEs in Illinois.

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Qshake

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[msquared48]

Can SE's stamp Architectural plans in Illinois?

Mike McCann
MMC Engineering
Motto: KISS
Motivation: Don't ask

 

[BAretired]

Who wants to stamp architectural drawings, Mike? The situation in Illinois seems to be biased in favor of architects. What is the Illinois Association of Professional Engineers doing about it?

BA

 

[Qshake]

BA - I don't know that the IAPE or ISPE or whatever they are see this as their fight anymore. Once the SE law was effected back in the early 1900s, I beleive the ISPE more or less said you're on your own. Most SEs in Illinois are members of the Structural Engineers Association of Illinois (SEAOI) but again because many, but not all, SEs work for architects I don't see SEAOI taking issue with this. If the SEs were more autonomous perhaps but not when your biting the hands that feeds you.

Thankfully, my area of work is largely sans architects!

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[BAretired]

Qshake,

I see your point.

BA