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themiltman

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Jul 25, 2006
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i have water pressure of 100kpa most of the year how is a cheap way to turn this into power
 
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Certainly extracting power from water pressure differentials is nothing new, because of course that is what is happening at a hydroelectric dam! The economy of scale is a little different there however. Extracting power from your "facet" is not exactly economical. $1895 for a micro reaction turbine generator link and can it give out; 100W at 500GPM? So at even the exhorbitant 15 cents/kWh we pay here, it would take 126,333 hours of "maintenance free" operation just to pay for it! That's 8 hours per day for over 40 years. Let's not even go to how much water 500GPM is!

Not only that, but your local water company expended power to get that water pressure to you. If everyone started trying to extract power from it, there goes your pressure, so they would need to expend MORE power to keep it up. Their costs to do so come from where? Your water bill!

Bottom line, there is no free lunch. Not even the glass of water that goes with it.
 
Look at


Download the PDF brochure and check out the water powered LED lit taps...

(Not sure how to do a more direct link, sorry)

I wonder how they work.

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Pretty cool er...hot.. no umm... purple! Yeah purple! They must have a little impeller and they run the water out thru an orifice at the impeller. I wonder how they do the colors? Could be a separate impeller for each color LED.

Keith Cress
Flamin Systems, Inc.-
 
I think they're full of it!! A catalyst that separates H2 from water? Bunk! If they had that we wouldn't need another power plant on earth! Only some water.

Cold fusion anyone?

They are trying to disguise that they have some fuel in their "catalyst" container that may evolve hydrogen when reacted with water. "Catalyst wears out? Just buy a new catalyst module!"

The polymer fuel cell is just about 'standard' these days. I have no problem with a fuel cartridge that you add water to. It actually sounds better than a bunch of methanol leaking into airliner luggage.[bomb]

Keith Cress
Flamin Systems, Inc.-
 
well guys i only stumbled on this page a nd didnt think any more of it
heres some info

15 to 20 years ago a mate put a 3 km road into world heritage fain forest pre world heritage also he put in 2km of 2inch poly pipe to a natural dam now over the wet season the wast of water in huge but only 2 months of the year there is no waste
now at the bottom of the hill it splits to two one fills his tank the other fills another plus stock an feeds an orchard so there is a number of places that it can be taped and a number of way to do it each pipe at the split has pressure of 100kpa and the waste water just flows back to the creek

6 months of the year the first tank over flows 1 gigaliteron avarge an hour not including the wet season and the world is in drought these people dont know how lucky they are

now back to the question how is a cheap way to turn this in to power from old cars bikes and machines
 
also i would like to thank you for your replies

thanx
 
Also "Low head hydo". I did a number of these things on irrigation ditches in the late '70s and early '80s when the US government was providing tax incentives for "alternate energy sources". The only way they made money was in the tax rebates, otherwise they cost more to maintain than they generated. It might be better now however, there are a lot more people doing it and the technology has improved.

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The answer to this it seems would be many only limits here are education, creativity, and what you have available to work with. I wonder If you could also search for Patents on previous inventions, might get plans for all sorts of water driven machines.

Chuck

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thanks chuck but where would i find out about thes patens are they of public record or is there a book that i can buy
any help would be great
 
This is the page for U.S. Patent and Trademark office. On the top of the page Click "How to search" you will find complete instructions for viewing. Hope this helps.


Chuck

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While I realize the original question was off the forum topic, somewhere in the thread is the comment about:

RF power meters do that, generate power from water flow

are those RF power meters or rf water meters, i.e. is this an application of automatic meter reading? If you can point me to a product I'd be grateful as my googling has been rather unproductive.
 
Thanks Machmech,

Looks like it is battery powered, although a 20 year life is very impressive. It sounded, above, like it was powered by the water flow.

rt
 
Yes indeed " Believe none of what you hear and half of what you see" The water works guy told me it was self charging, I could not dissect the box it is sealed real well. Now that I know they are calling it "Tamper Proof" I am somewhat tempted!

Chuck

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Operahouse might be able to help you on that.

"The new electronic RF power meters do that, generate power from water flow so they don't have to be connected to a wal wart."

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BTW, the Wall Wart up top came out wrong and I just noticed.. DOH!

Here is a "Wall Wart", (for the one person out of 25M who doesn't know).

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Keith Cress
Flamin Systems, Inc.-
 
I'd like to ask Operhouse but I suppose I have to wait until he reads this thread again.
 
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