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code-referenced standards

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muncher

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Aug 29, 2010
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As those of us in California approach the adoption of a new CA Building Code, I am wondering what, if any, are newly referenced standards. As we all know, instead of specific requirements being reprinted in the building codes (UBC, IBC, CBC, etc.), the last several years have seen references used to specify even the most basic information (e.g. - design loads via ASCE 7). In my attempts to get prepared, I was wondering if anyone has a list of all of the new items I'll need to acquire (in addition to the code itself). (Doesn't the code just seem like a shopping list now?)

Another consideration is from a legal standpoint. There are some websites that make pdf files of legally adopted building codes (such as the CBC) freely available. The argument being that a law must be made available (at no cost) to citizens who are expected to follow that law. (For example, you shouldn't be able to get a traffic ticket if you don't have free access to the Vehicle Code!) But, how does this argument carry over to referenced standards? If anyone knows where to get (pdf) copies of various referenced publications (such as ASCE 7-10 once it becomes part of a legally adopted code), please let the rest of us know.
 
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A couple of the newly adopted standards are the ACI 318, ACI 530, The Wind and Seismic Suplement for the NDS, and the AISI codes. The 2009 IBC should reference most of the same standards The online free versions of the ICC is in an inconvienient format, but if you need to look up a section, it is availble online. Honestly, I think all of the codes and standards are reasonably priced. I disagree with anyone who trys to skate around copyright laws to save a couple hundred bucks.
 
I appreciate the response but have since prepared a more detailed list of the updated standards. For anyone needing a shopping list, they are as follows:
* ASCE 5-08, ACI 530-08, TMS 402-08
* ASCE 6-08, ACI 530.1-08, TMS 602-08
* ACI 318-08
* SDPWS-08
* AISI S100-07, ASCE 8-02
* DOC PS-1-07
* DOC PS-2-04
* DOC PS-20-05
* PTI-2007
* SJI CJ-1.0-06
Do not take this list to be complete - this is just what I have compiled as the references that are relevant for my typical use.

Finally, I should say that I do not object to purchasing certain codes or references that I use on a day-to-day basis for my own convenience. However, the issue of having codes and references publicly available is not simply an attempt to circumvent copyright law but more an assertion of the rights of citizens to due process. The dollar amount is irrelevant...is it ok for a jurisdiction to charge $1.00 for the vehicle code?...how about $10.00?...what is the cut-off limit? Also, I'm not saying that the codes must be available online - access to the codes at a building department or a public library would suffice.
 
The 2010 California Building Code reference newer versions of the AWS Structural Welding Codes than the 2009 IBC. California references D1.1-08, D1.3-08, and D1.4-05. The state also references D1.8-09 Structural Welding Code -- Seismic Supplemennt.
 
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