Change of Design Activity Stamp Text

[KENAT]

I realize this is arguably more one for the lawyers, but to give me a starting point, can anyone tell me of typical wording they've seen when ownership of a drawing transfers from one commercial company to another?

I'm not talking about the DOD type transfer of a contract or similar but for commercial companies where say, a division gets sold to another company. New drawings get done on the new companies template, but existing drawings or those already started on the old format just get a note.

ASME Y14.100 has an example Fig 1 that says "CURRENT DESIGN ACTIVITY CAGE CODE 09567, ABC PRODUCTS, TRENTON, NJ, 07806-5000". Appendix D, section 9 has more detail for govt drawings.

In our case, our address etc. hasn't changed, just the name, so do I literally now just need to place a note saying 'CURRENT DESIGN ACTIVITY ABC PRODUCTS'?

Seems like there should be something about "ALL PROPRIETARY RIGHTS BELONG TO ABC PRODUCTS" or similar.

I vaguely recall similar coming up but can't find it now.

Thanks.

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[ctopher]

At 2 companies I worked at, one doing DOD contracts, nothing was changed on the drawings. Only new drawings from a certain date had new data.

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[btrueblood]

Ditto what ctopher said.

 

[KENAT]

Well thanks, spoke to the Manufacturing Engineering Manager/Doc Control Manager (yeah, don't that sound like foxes watching the hen house) and seems we'll go with:

CURRENT DESIGN ACTIVITY ABC WIDGET BUSINESS, ABC CORPORATION
ALL PROPRIETARY RIGHTS BELONG TO ABC CORPORATION

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[SteveMartin]

Definitely one for the lawyers, whom I think will still give you varying answers.

Shortly after I started my first job the company sold the division that owned the overall company name, so the 'parent' company was required to rename itself as a condition of the sale. At the time we were told that any documents currently in use (active drawings, ALL of our procedure documentation, etc) had to be revised to remove mention of the old name. Prior drawings were ok if and only if they were not being issued again/anymore. For most drawings it wasn't as obnoxious as it sounds, because it was almost all one-off custom work, but the pile of procedure documentation was a PITA.

I think they took a bit more extreme approach than was necessary, but I didn't (and for that matter still don't) know the full story.

 

[KENAT]

Steve, when this first came up the first idea is that no document that ever went external to the company should have the old corporations name on it!

This has now been diluted somewhat fortunately, but some folks were still being asked to put some drawings onto new format. Not a big deal per drawing but quickly adds up!

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[vigildesign]

Per Global Engineering Documents, Drawing Requirements Manual, 10th Edition:

23.10 REVISION APPLIED TO TRANSFER OF DESIGN RESPONSIBILITY.
23.10.1 Revision of Design Activity Commercial And Government Entity (CAGE) Code. When design
responsibility is transferred from one design activity to another, it is made by a direct change only. The drawing
number and original design activity code identification will not be changed. The new design activity may add their
code identification to the drawing near the Title block:.

For example:

DESIGN ACTIVITY TRANSFERRED TO (CAGE Code) (Date).

 

[fsincox]

vigildesign,
This goes along with the issue I was getting at in my earlier thread, too. thread1103-283557
It seems, as you state above, we need to keep some of the original information, but, can we change the title block to the new company. We do not have the old company's system and formats. How close do I have to keep the actual title block to the old? Part of the old title block has the old companies proprietary notice, we add a new one using our name, can we remove the old proprietary notice or just cross it out?
Frank