JAE
Structural
- Jun 27, 2000
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OK all you seismic guru's out there....I need some help with a provision in the AISC Seismic Provisions for Structural Steel Buidlings - Section 11. Ordinary Moment Frames (OMF).
The section 11.2 calls out requirements for beam to column joints and connections where it says that FR moment connections need to be designed for a required flexural strength Mu = 1.1RyMp. This is simply the plastic moment capacity of the beam and makes sense that the largest moment that would ever get developed in the beam would be Mp.
Then, it says "or the maximum moment that can be delivered by the system". Usually, this is the ultimate capacity of your floor or roof diaphragm. Now this moment that would occur in the beam would be due to the gravity moments developed by the floor loads PLUS the moment developed in the beam by the maximum diaphragm shear capacity.
So far so good... I calculate Mp and also calculate the moment due to gravity plus diaphragm capcity shear and compare the two to choose the smaller.
In other words, the most moment that would ever get into the connection would be either the moment at the point of deck failure or the plastic moment of the beam. I follow all that.
Now in paragraph 11.2b, the required Vu for the connection is defined as the sum of two things:
1. Shear from load combination 1.2D + 0.5L + 0.2S
2. Shear resulting from Mu defined above.
I understand the first part as requiring the designer to include the gravity shear from the floor or roof. But I have a problem with the second. According to strict logical English, the shear resulting from Mu "above" could possibly include the gravity also as the "maximum moment that can be delivered by the system" has the deck diaphragm lateral forces in the analysis but also INCLUDES GRAVITY in the analysis. Thus, we'd be adding gravity shear twice, and that doesn't make any sense.
Can anyone clear this up for me?
Thanks,
The section 11.2 calls out requirements for beam to column joints and connections where it says that FR moment connections need to be designed for a required flexural strength Mu = 1.1RyMp. This is simply the plastic moment capacity of the beam and makes sense that the largest moment that would ever get developed in the beam would be Mp.
Then, it says "or the maximum moment that can be delivered by the system". Usually, this is the ultimate capacity of your floor or roof diaphragm. Now this moment that would occur in the beam would be due to the gravity moments developed by the floor loads PLUS the moment developed in the beam by the maximum diaphragm shear capacity.
So far so good... I calculate Mp and also calculate the moment due to gravity plus diaphragm capcity shear and compare the two to choose the smaller.
In other words, the most moment that would ever get into the connection would be either the moment at the point of deck failure or the plastic moment of the beam. I follow all that.
Now in paragraph 11.2b, the required Vu for the connection is defined as the sum of two things:
1. Shear from load combination 1.2D + 0.5L + 0.2S
2. Shear resulting from Mu defined above.
I understand the first part as requiring the designer to include the gravity shear from the floor or roof. But I have a problem with the second. According to strict logical English, the shear resulting from Mu "above" could possibly include the gravity also as the "maximum moment that can be delivered by the system" has the deck diaphragm lateral forces in the analysis but also INCLUDES GRAVITY in the analysis. Thus, we'd be adding gravity shear twice, and that doesn't make any sense.
Can anyone clear this up for me?
Thanks,