JonathanHanson
Automotive
- Mar 13, 2014
- 4
To the engineering experts here - I hope you won't mind a question from a non-expert, although I'm familiar with the general theories of shock absorbers and the different types - monotube, twin-tube, etc., and gas charging.
I'm writing a review of a new set of adjustable, twin-tube shock absorbers I installed on a Toyota Tacoma, which employ a closed-cell foam insert and a hefty volume of oil rather than a nitrogen charge.
In researching the causes of shock fade, I find varying opinions and even contradictory information. So far I've read or heard of a couple of contributing factors:
1. As the oil in a shock heats up under severe use, its viscosity drops, reducing the effectiveness of the valving and making the shock "softer." There is also mention of aeration in twin-tube shocks in which the nitrogen charge is not separated from the oil, as it is in a de Carbon monotube shock.
2. Cavitation, caused by voids forming in the oil on the low-pressure side of the piston. I've seen a couple of videos of this.
However, it remains unclear to me why cavitation causes fade. Does the momentary formation of those voids also reduce the viscosity of the oil? For cavitation to cause fade - which by definition is a progressive condition - I assume it must increase under severe conditions. Why would this be? Does hot oil cavitate more than cool oil?
Finally, no one has explained to my satisfaction how a pressurized shock reduces cavitation (or fade). Also, the shocks I'm testing are under essentially no pressure at rest. The closed-cell foam compresses and expands as the shock extends and contracts, but there is no gas pressure as such. So I wonder about cavitation and fade in this type of shock (which seems to be highly regarded in Australia for use in severe conditions).
Is anyone here willing to opine/pontificate/argue about these issues?
Thanks for any clarification, the more detailed the better - I want to understand this stuff!
Regards,
Jonathan
I'm writing a review of a new set of adjustable, twin-tube shock absorbers I installed on a Toyota Tacoma, which employ a closed-cell foam insert and a hefty volume of oil rather than a nitrogen charge.
In researching the causes of shock fade, I find varying opinions and even contradictory information. So far I've read or heard of a couple of contributing factors:
1. As the oil in a shock heats up under severe use, its viscosity drops, reducing the effectiveness of the valving and making the shock "softer." There is also mention of aeration in twin-tube shocks in which the nitrogen charge is not separated from the oil, as it is in a de Carbon monotube shock.
2. Cavitation, caused by voids forming in the oil on the low-pressure side of the piston. I've seen a couple of videos of this.
However, it remains unclear to me why cavitation causes fade. Does the momentary formation of those voids also reduce the viscosity of the oil? For cavitation to cause fade - which by definition is a progressive condition - I assume it must increase under severe conditions. Why would this be? Does hot oil cavitate more than cool oil?
Finally, no one has explained to my satisfaction how a pressurized shock reduces cavitation (or fade). Also, the shocks I'm testing are under essentially no pressure at rest. The closed-cell foam compresses and expands as the shock extends and contracts, but there is no gas pressure as such. So I wonder about cavitation and fade in this type of shock (which seems to be highly regarded in Australia for use in severe conditions).
Is anyone here willing to opine/pontificate/argue about these issues?
Thanks for any clarification, the more detailed the better - I want to understand this stuff!
Regards,
Jonathan