Noway2
Electrical
- Apr 15, 2005
- 789
Here is a question that is a varient on a common topic: backfeed protection. In a large, non pluggable, UPS, you are required to detect and stop any backfeed at the input voltage within a one second time frame.
My question is, how does one detect the presence of backfeed?
Measuring voltage alone is insufficient as the backfeed voltage can look like normal source voltage. I am thinking that one would have to also measure the currents, assuming that there are any - and they would likely be low and due to leakage, power supplies, etc, to calculate the instaneous power flow. I say that the current would be low to nil as the input breaker would be open. The problem is that the input terminals can still be electrically live and lethal which is what you want to avoid.
I have seens some representative schematics for backfeed prevention relays and it looks like these relays monitor the current on one phase, the voltage across the other two phases (adding a 30 deg phase shift). The two signals then get multiplied and low pass filtered with the output being the detected signal.
Multiplying the voltage and current gives the power which will be 120Hz sinusois, assuming a 60Hz application. I am guessing that the LPF is to remove the 120Hz and the detector then looks for a DC offset. But this is purely a guess. I am also not clear on the exact purpose of adding a 30 deg phase shift in the calculation and how this affects the detection.
Would anyone be so kind as to help me to figure out a practical means to detect the backfeed and / or to help me better understand how the circuit described above would do so?
My question is, how does one detect the presence of backfeed?
Measuring voltage alone is insufficient as the backfeed voltage can look like normal source voltage. I am thinking that one would have to also measure the currents, assuming that there are any - and they would likely be low and due to leakage, power supplies, etc, to calculate the instaneous power flow. I say that the current would be low to nil as the input breaker would be open. The problem is that the input terminals can still be electrically live and lethal which is what you want to avoid.
I have seens some representative schematics for backfeed prevention relays and it looks like these relays monitor the current on one phase, the voltage across the other two phases (adding a 30 deg phase shift). The two signals then get multiplied and low pass filtered with the output being the detected signal.
Multiplying the voltage and current gives the power which will be 120Hz sinusois, assuming a 60Hz application. I am guessing that the LPF is to remove the 120Hz and the detector then looks for a DC offset. But this is purely a guess. I am also not clear on the exact purpose of adding a 30 deg phase shift in the calculation and how this affects the detection.
Would anyone be so kind as to help me to figure out a practical means to detect the backfeed and / or to help me better understand how the circuit described above would do so?