jayrod12
Structural
- Mar 8, 2011
- 6,265
A couple of us in the office are having a debate regarding shoring and I'm looking for more opinions.
Back story, there's a ton of shoring going in at a WWTP to facilitate expansion. The existing buildings (let's call grade elev. 100') are on driven piles with average t/o pile cap at elev. 88'-0". The new building foundations require an excavation down to elev. 76'-0" (24 ft change from grade, 12ft below existing t/o pilecap.
For some reason or another outside of our control the client/contractor is unwilling to excavate right up to the existing buildings which would result in the shoring only having to be 12ft tall, but rather are mandating that the shoring be full 24 ft height, but still as close to the existing buildings as possible (some areas we can get to 3 ft away, others 10').
Now to the question. When you are 3 feet away from the building would you still design it using the full 24ft height of soil in the soil pressure determination, or for the top 12ft next to the building do you treat it as a surcharge load and begin your triangular (or trapezoidal) pressure distribution at the bottom of the foundation wall.
What about if you are 10 ft away? And where between those two numbers would be your cutoff between full pressure on the wall and almost none until the underside of existing foundation?
Hopefully my sketch is somewhat helpful in deciphering my question.
Back story, there's a ton of shoring going in at a WWTP to facilitate expansion. The existing buildings (let's call grade elev. 100') are on driven piles with average t/o pile cap at elev. 88'-0". The new building foundations require an excavation down to elev. 76'-0" (24 ft change from grade, 12ft below existing t/o pilecap.
For some reason or another outside of our control the client/contractor is unwilling to excavate right up to the existing buildings which would result in the shoring only having to be 12ft tall, but rather are mandating that the shoring be full 24 ft height, but still as close to the existing buildings as possible (some areas we can get to 3 ft away, others 10').
Now to the question. When you are 3 feet away from the building would you still design it using the full 24ft height of soil in the soil pressure determination, or for the top 12ft next to the building do you treat it as a surcharge load and begin your triangular (or trapezoidal) pressure distribution at the bottom of the foundation wall.
What about if you are 10 ft away? And where between those two numbers would be your cutoff between full pressure on the wall and almost none until the underside of existing foundation?
Hopefully my sketch is somewhat helpful in deciphering my question.