Manual of Steel Construction 1

[James111_imported]

I recently found, after great difficulty, a copy of ninth edition Manual of Steel Construction - Allowable Stress Design. (Amazon.com reported it "out of print" and couldnt find a copy at all!!). I found one and problem solved for now but...<br>
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Is it true that its no longer published?<br>
Is there a similar volume for "Load and Resistance Design"?<br>
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[legner]

No, it is still published by AISC. AISC will not be updating it anymore; the ninth edition is the final ASD.<br>
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http://www.aisc.org/publications<br>

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The current LRFD manual is 2nd edition, 1992. There will be a new one coming out in 2000, I believe.<br>

 

[erkansamhal]

The LRFD Manual will be published in 2001,spring.Look to AISC web site for common asked questions.

 

[FpMann]

. . . and the third edition of the LRFD manual is supposed to include the next iteration of ASD! It appears that AISC is following ACI's example and plans to include the ASD procedures as sort of an 'alternative design method' with the next release of LRFD . . . I suppose we'll all have to wait and see, huh?

 

[jrmack]

There is a pdf version of the LRFD dated 1999 available from AISC now.

 

[JAE]

Yes...I also read about what FpMann said (combined LRFD and ASD in one manual).

Apparently the hew and cry about AISC abandoning the ASD method finally reached someone and they opted to update the ASD and include a dual approach to the manual and specs.

They also mentioned that the combined manual would actually be THINNER than the current LRFD. A code/spec that actually got smaller.....what a novel idea!

One point that AISC kept making that didn't seem to get understood.....many of the ASD fans kept complaining about how difficult LRFD was compared to ASD. AISC noted that, if ASD were brought up to speed with LRFD, it would also be quite a bit more complex than it currently is.

 

[scherry]

well, I am keeping all of my &quot;asd&quot; manuals. But i am glad to hear that they have not abandoned it completely. That is good news for me. As for manuals and codes getting thinner, frankly that does not necessarily make me happy. Either A) they are using even thinner paper that cannot be tabbed and highlighted and jambed in a book bag and dragged around for years or B) they are taking data out so that you need three times the nunmber of books to design from. Reference the IBC 2000 vs UBC 94 - for the UBC 94, the only other book you REALLY needed to design a typical building was the AISC. With the IBC, you need the AISC, the NDS (timber) the ACI, the MIA, the ASCE 7-98.... and it is a diffcult size to pack around, too. But then,I may be biased. That &quot;thinner&quot; deal is part of the reason I keep the old seventh edition of the AISC. The detailing information is much more complete than in the later editions.

 

[ajh1]

The full combined ASD/LRFD specification will be the 2005 spec. It is just coming out on it's initial ballot to the committee now. AISC is following in AISI's footsteps in terms of methodology. Define a nominal equation, then you either divide by a factor of safety for ASD or multiply by a resistance factor for LRFD.

 

[Lutfi]

I will always use the ASD method for steel design. I think it is simple and yields good results. It may be a little conservative; but with the years of experience that I have and seen what becomes of steel members, being conservative is not all that bad.

Beams wind up supporting all kinds of additional weight, plumbing, conduits, sewer lines, water lines, air handling units, water heaters. In one plant, I want able to see the steel beam due to the intensity of piping and mechanical ducts that was supported by the beam.