cadcoke5
Mechanical
- Aug 11, 2003
- 80
I work for a company that makes animatronic figures (i.e. robotic puppets). Our electro-mechanical systems have extensive data on the performance of the device, but our pneumatic systems are lacking in this regard. Actually, most of our systems are pneumatic. We would like to be able to detect things like air leaks, valve failures, and mechanical failures.
We have evaluated using simple pressure switches located by the valves in series to the air lines going to the actuators. This hope was that if the pressure went below a certain value, we would get an "alarm" that there was a significant leak in the system. But, in testing, the back pressure from the 1/8" hose lines was enough that the pressure switch never went low enough to trigger. Also, this system didn't give us feedback if an actuator was not moving as expected.
I know there are systems in industry to run a routine, perhaps the first thing in the morning, to test each actuator line to see if it holds pressure. But, we would like some sort of continuous monitoring of the performance.
Currently our system uses a custom box that accepts a "start the show" command over Ethernet, and then runs an internally stored program to turn off and on the valves it is wired to. It can accept some digital and analog 0-10v signals, and do some internal logic programming. Because of the number of actuators in a small space, we can't put limit switches on the actuators, and the quantity of wires to run would be prohibitive.
I suspect our answer will be some sort of pressure sensor network on the output of each valve, and a flow sensor at the main air feed to each manifold. Such a network would then be continuously monitored, and the live performance data compared to a stored set of data created during the installation. At a certain percentage of data being out of spec, the system would report an error.
I have read about CAN Bus and I2C networking, but have not used either. But, perhaps one of these networks could carry our sensor data, and then a dedicated computer collects all the data to determine if a failure occurred.
Since pneumatic actuators are common in industry, I am surprised that I have not come across an existing solution that is commonly implemented. Perhaps I am a novice trying to invent a solution that has stumped the experienced experts.
I have not come across any discussion about this on the forum. Any thoughts on this?
Joe Dunfee
We have evaluated using simple pressure switches located by the valves in series to the air lines going to the actuators. This hope was that if the pressure went below a certain value, we would get an "alarm" that there was a significant leak in the system. But, in testing, the back pressure from the 1/8" hose lines was enough that the pressure switch never went low enough to trigger. Also, this system didn't give us feedback if an actuator was not moving as expected.
I know there are systems in industry to run a routine, perhaps the first thing in the morning, to test each actuator line to see if it holds pressure. But, we would like some sort of continuous monitoring of the performance.
Currently our system uses a custom box that accepts a "start the show" command over Ethernet, and then runs an internally stored program to turn off and on the valves it is wired to. It can accept some digital and analog 0-10v signals, and do some internal logic programming. Because of the number of actuators in a small space, we can't put limit switches on the actuators, and the quantity of wires to run would be prohibitive.
I suspect our answer will be some sort of pressure sensor network on the output of each valve, and a flow sensor at the main air feed to each manifold. Such a network would then be continuously monitored, and the live performance data compared to a stored set of data created during the installation. At a certain percentage of data being out of spec, the system would report an error.
I have read about CAN Bus and I2C networking, but have not used either. But, perhaps one of these networks could carry our sensor data, and then a dedicated computer collects all the data to determine if a failure occurred.
Since pneumatic actuators are common in industry, I am surprised that I have not come across an existing solution that is commonly implemented. Perhaps I am a novice trying to invent a solution that has stumped the experienced experts.
I have not come across any discussion about this on the forum. Any thoughts on this?
Joe Dunfee