KR8K
Automotive
- Nov 5, 2006
- 3
Hello,
I'm new to this forum. I'm not an electrical engineer, but I work in an investigative capacity in the automotive industry. Sorry if this sounds a little disjointed, but some of the information is proprietary and since I'm responsible for the "fix" when it happens, I need some advice. We have this IC located in a module on a car. The IC contains a logic and power board and amongst other things contains about 8 high side drivers, which is to say it controls B+ (12 volts) to lamps in the car. Due to an unfortunate series of events, one of the high side drivers that run the largest load is too small. After a period of inrush current events from the lights turning on and off, the driver gets damaged by the current, damages the control board and the chip can no longer protect itself from hi temp or over current. The resulting fire is quite spectacular. There is a current limiting bit, that can be set to limit peak current, this setting was set to limit which also causes a large amount of heat that must be dissipated due to the inrush current when the bulbs turn on. Between the bit setting and the sizing of the high side driver, we have a problem.
There is an unused high side driver that can handle the load, but due to another incorrect setting, there has been open load detection current (about 100 micro amps) that has been running through this unused driver for at least 25-35K miles. I can't equate that to inrush events because it depends on how often the doors are opened. The chip supplier came forth last week and told me that I should be checking the leakage and voltage drop of that FET before swapping the circuits. They're calling it ion contamination, caused by the leak detection current and know that theoretically it can happen. We've never seen one that has an issue, but then the only way it can be detected is on the manufacturer's end of line tester.
What I need to know is, has anyone ever heard of ion contamination in this type of situation? Is what the supplier is saying make sense? How likely is it that I may see this in this part? They're claiming that a contaminated part could cause voltage drop across the FET, localized heating and a possible thermal event. Read fire.
If I have to check this FET for ion contamination it is going to be a major deal. Is it real or fiction?
Thanks
Eric
I'm new to this forum. I'm not an electrical engineer, but I work in an investigative capacity in the automotive industry. Sorry if this sounds a little disjointed, but some of the information is proprietary and since I'm responsible for the "fix" when it happens, I need some advice. We have this IC located in a module on a car. The IC contains a logic and power board and amongst other things contains about 8 high side drivers, which is to say it controls B+ (12 volts) to lamps in the car. Due to an unfortunate series of events, one of the high side drivers that run the largest load is too small. After a period of inrush current events from the lights turning on and off, the driver gets damaged by the current, damages the control board and the chip can no longer protect itself from hi temp or over current. The resulting fire is quite spectacular. There is a current limiting bit, that can be set to limit peak current, this setting was set to limit which also causes a large amount of heat that must be dissipated due to the inrush current when the bulbs turn on. Between the bit setting and the sizing of the high side driver, we have a problem.
There is an unused high side driver that can handle the load, but due to another incorrect setting, there has been open load detection current (about 100 micro amps) that has been running through this unused driver for at least 25-35K miles. I can't equate that to inrush events because it depends on how often the doors are opened. The chip supplier came forth last week and told me that I should be checking the leakage and voltage drop of that FET before swapping the circuits. They're calling it ion contamination, caused by the leak detection current and know that theoretically it can happen. We've never seen one that has an issue, but then the only way it can be detected is on the manufacturer's end of line tester.
What I need to know is, has anyone ever heard of ion contamination in this type of situation? Is what the supplier is saying make sense? How likely is it that I may see this in this part? They're claiming that a contaminated part could cause voltage drop across the FET, localized heating and a possible thermal event. Read fire.
If I have to check this FET for ion contamination it is going to be a major deal. Is it real or fiction?
Thanks
Eric