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  1. BAretired

    Theoretical Question - Planar Truss Problem

    6.8 kN is intended to be the tension in member 2. It's a little off due to the slight change in slope. Reactions at the bottom of member 1 have a resultant aligned with the member. They are a little off due to change in slope, but there is no shear in member 1. There are no moments anywhere...
  2. BAretired

    Theoretical Question - Planar Truss Problem

    The members are not modeled as beams. They are hinged at each end, so they must act as axial rods. If as you say, horizontal member #2 carried most of the applied load, it would stretch by delta = FL/AE which would be inconsistent with the strain in Members 1 and 3.
  3. BAretired

    Theoretical Question - Planar Truss Problem

    Congratulations comhedoisl, you were correct. Duh!! Thinking about it last night, I realized that Node "O" had to deflect upwards since member 3 is in compression and is pinned at the top. Now we have the proof thanks to Retrograde and goutam-freela. Thanks guys!
  4. BAretired

    Theoretical Question - Planar Truss Problem

    I suggest you check it using an appropriate software package. I don't have one myself, but I believe goutam-freela does. If not, someone else will certainly have one. Failing that, it can be checked by hand calculation.
  5. BAretired

    Theoretical Question - Planar Truss Problem

    Just had another look at your diagram. Member 3 has 2.4 kN compression downward. Member 1 has a vertical component of 2.4 kN upward. This suggests that your diagram is out of scale. There is no reason for Node "O" to move up or down. If it does not move up or down, then it simply moves to...
  6. BAretired

    Theoretical Question - Planar Truss Problem

    That structure was indeterminate. You did not analyze it as an indeterminate structure. Your sketch shows that Members 1, 2 and 3 rotated after loading; and that changes the reactions. After loading, P should be at Node "O" in its final position, not its original unloaded position...
  7. BAretired

    Theoretical Question - Planar Truss Problem

    Of course 1. and 2. would be true. But not as a result of elements being symmetrical. The given postulates hold true for any stable arrangement of spokes, whether symmetrical or unsymmetrical, whether odd or even in number. Every spoke is pin connected at both ends, but the central pin...
  8. BAretired

    Theoretical Question - Planar Truss Problem

    That simply means that the k term is zero for both P and R. What I said before is still true. They are 2D vectors of the form P = ai+bj and the vector sum P+R = 0.
  9. BAretired

    Theoretical Question - Planar Truss Problem

    We have a structure resisting a single applied load; that load can be represented by a vector in the form P = ai+bj+ck. That expression provides both magnitude and direction of the load P. It seems to me that the resultant of all of the reactions must be equal and opposite to the applied...
  10. BAretired

    Truss or not a Truss?

    Cutting the span to 25' is an excellent solution, but not one which ET members were at liberty to suggest. But good for you; let's hope the client or architect agrees. Kootk's comments are interesting; perhaps a separate thread is warranted as it is an important subject.
  11. BAretired

    Truss or not a Truss?

    You could make the truss symmetrical. You could drop the bottom chord and reduce headroom. You could reduce roof slope. You could raise the ridge. You could change to a steel truss. Can't think of anything else you could do to move things forward.
  12. BAretired

    Truss or not a Truss?

    Why not simply change the truss configuration to something sensible?
  13. BAretired

    Truss or not a Truss?

    Both of the selected designs appear much too shallow, but they should be checked by calculation, taking into account the actual dead and live load. Truss programs used by fabricators should be capable of providing a reliable answer.
  14. BAretired

    Truss Reactions

    If it doesn't work as two simple spans, use one simple span. That appears to be the original intent of the fabricator. BCLL is noted as 0.0 psf, with an asterisk beside it, meaning I suppose, that live load between Joint 15 and 17 is not zero. If the truss doesn't work as one or two spans...
  15. BAretired

    Truss Reactions

    There's no way with the software currently in use, but the resulting forces and reactions are clearly wrong as shown. When supports are deflecting, continuous trusses should be avoided in favor of simple spans.
  16. BAretired

    How to fix this?

    There is one potential problem with this detail which has not been mentioned. Wood joists will shrink with time; if the top of steel beam is flush or nearly flush with the top of joists, there will be a noticeable bump in the deck above the beam. That will likely be an issue with the client...
  17. BAretired

    Pole Barn beam sizing

    If the pole barn is a farm building and if your location has a farm code, use that because its structural requirements are usually less stringent than the building code.
  18. BAretired

    Cable bracing for a building

    It would be better to brace the third or fourth bay from each end in order to minimize temperature effects.

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