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    NFPA 30 Water Miscibility of Flammable Liquids

    Thanks Stookey. Here are some follow up questions based on your responses. 1. Are there any particular high school chemistry books or college organic chemistry books you recommend that you typically use for your hazmat projects? 2. You mention water solubility. Is this synonymous with water...
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    NFPA 30 Water Miscibility of Flammable Liquids

    Hi, a few inter-related questions regarding Flammable Liquids: 1. What are the best books/websites/other resources are there for reviewing an MSDS sheet to make an accurate determination of the water miscibility for each component chemical in the list in order to comfortably classify the...
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    Emergency Lighting Exception?

    Thanks cdafd, your link was an informative read. I also received some feedback from the NFPA and thought it would be best to post here for the benefit of others: My response is based on NFPA 101, Life Safety Code, 2015 edition. No - the requirements for emergency lighting in storage...
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    CFC Draft Curtain Requirement in Non-Sprinklered Buildings?

    Thanks, I greatly appreciate the valuable info on this everyone, it really helped out. Sorry for this late reply!
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    Emergency Lighting Exception?

    Hi, are there any situations in the NFPA 101 (other than the exception in §42.2.8.2) or the California Fire Code where emergency power is not required the designated path of travel? For example, are there any warehouse conditions where emergency power is not required and a designated path would...
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    Emergency Lighting for Warehouse Racking Areas?

    Hi, I am designing a "designated" exit path in a storage rack warehouse so the electrical contractor can determine which lights are required to have emergency power to meet the minimum 1-foot-candle requirement. I have included a 44" wide "designated" perimeter around the racks themselves, and...
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    CFC Draft Curtain Requirement in Non-Sprinklered Buildings?

    Thanks for the responses. To be clear, I am specifically referring to the scenario where the building is non-sprinklered (so not ESFR where Note j would apply), and IS high piled storage. My question did include my own answer of the scenario in which I've outlined... I am really just looking...
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    CFC Draft Curtain Requirement in Non-Sprinklered Buildings?

    Hi, CFC Table 3206.2 calls for the use of draft curtains in non-sprinklered buildings. In what capacity would they actually be required? According to Table 910.3, draft curtains must contain a floor area of 10,000 SF max. for Class I-IV commodities <= 20' top of storage. My understanding is...
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    High Piled Storage of Hay Bales?

    LCREP, I am waiting for a response from my FPE on this as well, thank you for the insight. skdesigner, thanks for the direction as well on FMDS 8-7. I wish it included hay just to have a clear answer, but this is great. With a combination of FMDS 8-7 and other supporting materials, we can...
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    High Piled Storage of Hay Bales?

    CFC Chapter 2 definition: COMBUSTIBLE FIBERS. Readily ignitable and free-burning materials in a fibrous or shredded form, such as cocoa fiber, cloth, cotton, excelsior, hay, hemp, henequen, istle, jute, kapok, oakum, rags, sisal, Spanish moss, straw, tow, wastepaper, certain synthetic fibers or...
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    High Piled Storage of Hay Bales?

    Hi, We reviewed a metal framed building that stores 4'Wx8'Lx3'H bales of hay in grouped stacks, and they are looking to stack upward. The two high piled storage areas have a CMDA design density/area of .35/2,940 (Area #1) and a CMSA design of 25 heads @ 25 PSI (Area #2). The 2013 California...
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    In-Rack Sprinklers section for Shelving not found in NFPA 13 Ch. 15?

    Hi, I have a client that is storing stable unexpanded cartoned and exposed Group A plastics on single and back to back shelving units (not storage rack) with wire decks and solid shelving (which they are willing to remove if it helps). They have a 28'-6" ceiling height and top of storage at...
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    Interpreting Design Density Curves

    I found a very interesting article on the historical forming of the NFPA 13 design area curves: http://magazine.sfpe.org/sprinklers/nfpa-13-sprinkler-system-design-density-curves-where-did-they-come I have crunched through it and found very interesting points that really put the curves into...
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    Multi-Class Aggregate Areas for High Piled Storage?

    Hi cdafd, thanks. Yes, but I was more concerned about flammable and combustible liquids, which are still high hazard, not Group A plastics. It would be nice if they had a table like 2303.7.4 for F/C liquids. Thank you
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    Multi-Class Aggregate Areas for High Piled Storage?

    Hi, According to the 2010 CFC, this is the definition for High Piled Storage: HIGH-PILED COMBUSTIBLE STORAGE. Storage of combustible materials in closely packed piles or combustible materials on pallets, in racks or on shelves where the top of storage is greater than 12 feet (3658 mm) in...

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